Wireless Networking Drops Connection Windows 7 Troubleshooting
Here we go again.
I had hoped this crap would be fixed in Windows 7, but apparently the long suffering Microsoft blunder known officially as NetBIOS / NetBEUI, and as NetKablooey by any experienced systems administrator or network administrator, just won’t die. Although Windows 7 itself doesn’t necessarily use NetBIOS anymore (a long ago abandoned local area network protocol, that among other things, would not scale to large networks) it still has it built in, presumably to handle the error-prone NetBEUI connections still out there on Windows XP machines all over the world.
If you have a wireless network that randomly drops connections even though your wireless adapter connects fine to the wireless network and Windows 7 says that nothing is wrong, and may even still show as connected based on the icon in your system tray, chances are you are being knocked off the wireless network by browser elections from the old NetBIOS network protocol. Basically, browser elections unleash a flurry of broadcast packets out onto the network, that for some reason are not handled properly and Windows 7 starts shutting down services to fix it.
Unfortunately, it seems that no one seems to know that this happens a lot and you will see post after post in wireless network troubleshooting forums or wireless help forums about computers that work just fine with the wireless network most of the time, but sometimes just drop the connection for no reason. The self-proclaimed experts in these forums answer with all of the same drivel that they do for any wireless connection problem: update your drivers, check your SSID, check your security settings, and then, when none of their worthless suggestions work, then they will tell you to blame your microwave, or buy a new wireless adapter or wireless router. They’ll even helpfully through in a brand name suggestion that has, “worked well for me in the past.” – WHATEVER!
Computer Browser Error Causes Wireless Network Connectivity Problem
Here is what is really happening. You can prove it with your computer’s own system event logs. (The logs are under Administrative Tools -> Event Viewer -> Windows Logs -> System)
Depending upon how long it has been since your computer dropped its wireless connection and you look in the Event Viewer, these events may be right up at the top, or you may have to scroll down a bit to find them.
The tale tell sign of Browser Elections from NetBIOS breaking wireless network connections is a pattern of 3 system events that all occur with the same timestamp. The easiest way to find them is to look for the Source of BROWSER. That will be the first of the three events. The other two events will be the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service was successfully sent a stop control, followed by The TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper service has been stopped.
The next events may vary depending upon how your computer is set up, but will include one indicating that the TCP/IP NetBIOS has successfully started. This is why your Windows 7 system does not know that it has lost wireless connectivity. It THINKS the link is still working and will not change the system tray icon to show a disconnected network because TCP/IP (which is what it is actually using for networking) is working normally.
Unfortunately, another service gets knocked offline during this cascade of system events that does not get restarted. The WinHTTP Proxy Auto-Discovery Service, which should be completely unnecessary for a system using legitimate networking standards, enters the stopped state and does not restart.
This prevents your computer, not from networking and sending packets, but rather it prevents your system of having any idea what to do with that traffic. The stink of this whole thing is that if Windows 7 wireless networking worked well enough without all of these “helper” services, none of this would be a problem for Internet connections because the DNS Servers would still be running. But, Windows 7 wireless configuration is too dumb to use DNS Servers for Internet traffic, because it worries more about local area network traffic. Without one of the LAN services there to tell Windows to send those packets to the Internet and use the real networking protocols standards, it flails about like a helpless child.
Unfortunately, the next event is the one that gets the WARNING icon and label and it says that there is a DNS problem. Oh, that isn’t a Windows issue, is it? I guess you’ll need to go waste hours of your time seeing if there is a DNS error. Even worse, if you re-enter your DNS settings or otherwise change the configuration of your wireless adapter enough to cause a full network subsystem restart the problem will go away…until the next time, because the problem was not with the DNS configuration in the first place.
Troubleshooting Windows 7 Wireless Network Connection Errors
Here is where it really starts to suck.
If you know anything about computers or networking, you will try to troubleshoot wireless connections by disconnect and reconnect to the wireless network as a way to reset the connection. That won’t work, however, because connecting and disconnecting don’t check the status of the WinHTTP Proxy service.
Running the Windows 7 troubleshooter MIGHT work, if the system decides there is enough of a problem to completely restart the networking subsystem, in which case the WinHTTP Proxy Service gets sent a restart command. While this does restart the service, and restore a functioning wireless network, it does not take any notice of the fact that the system was stopped in the first place, or what caused it to crash originally, so nothing really gets fixed.
What can you do to permanently fix these wireless connection errors?
Go into Services (in Administrator Tools) and set Computer Browser to Disabled (you have to stop it first.) Then, this idiotic vestige of Microsoft blunders past won’t try and force elections to make itself the Master Browser, and thus won’t knock itself off of the wireless network. The only downside to this solution is if your network design sucks enough, or if you have old Windows XP computers sharing files and folders on your home network, you might not be able to connect to those computers by name.
You can solve this problem by using LMHOST files or other means of name resolution.
Theoretically, if there were only Windows 7 computers on your wireless network there would be no issue, with name resolution, but, you might STILL get knocked off the network because Windows 7 refuses to assume that there are no old and busted NetBIOS computers on your network until proven otherwise, which means every time you turn on a computer, or some invisible timer goes off, some computer will try and force a browser election and break the wireless connection again.
Update: Disabling the browser service is not enough. Computers can continue to be knocked off the wireless network by responding to the browser elections of other computers, it seems.
Additionally, other services besides WinHTTP Proxy may be disrupted and cause subsequent wireless networking problems. Users should go into Services Manager and sort by startup type. Then, scan for any Automatic processes that are no longer running and restart those as well.
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Wow. Great article. Too bad there is no know fix.
Thanks for that article..looked everything up, and it was just like you said! Hopefully there will be a fix soon.
I’m trying the fix you said, we’ll see if it works.
I am also seeing this issue
Just recently bought a Sony VAIO with windows7 on it that would have intermittent and VERY VERY low network speeds. Downloading around 150-240kb/s MAX. I’m on a 12mbps bandwidth speed. Thats quite unusual, so I decided to stop the computer browser service, and it WORKED like a charm!
Now downloading at 1.5mbps, and haven’t dropped connection at all. We have yet to see if this stays connected, but for now the downloading speed and network connectivity definitely have improved 100 fold.
To all that have been working on this issue has gotten a lot further than Microsoft has at fixing it. So thanks for your hard work. Now I can at least wait until a true fix comes out.
Again, disabling the service has worked for me. Windows7 x64 bit.
Thanks for this, solved my issue. Perhaps update this article IF MSFT comes out with a real fix?
I’ll do my best. In the meantime, things don’t look too good for our heroes. Most of the “support” on the Microsoft help forums treat this as a configuration issue or a problem with the individual user’s computer, not as something systematic that affects Win7 in general.
Great. I’m glad to hear that just disabling the browser worked for you. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to be a fix that works across the board, not to mention the potential difficulties caused for some home networks by disabling it. However, as you mention it can work wonders sometimes, so I suggest starting with disabling the service on the most problematic computer in your network and see if you get lucky.
hi,
i have the same problem
brand new laptop hp win7 connects wireless signal great but no internet
i’ll try to disable browser
i quite didn’t understand the second part though
can u explain more about the services manager what i should do there
Disabling the browser also worked for me, no problems at all. I even went on Microsoft answers and told people there about the NETBIOS/NETBEUI problem. Well one of the people who is an MVP(for giving out long answers with no solutions I guess) on the site told me I was wrong and that kablooey is no longer on the system. Here is the quote “disabling the computer browser service can be an issue on home (and Enterprise)
networks. netbeui has not been a part of the OS for a long time. and this is
advice that I hope no one follows because it is inaccurate. I’m glad it worked
for you, but that does not make it the real fix for these issues. There is no
one size fits all fix.”
It’s obvious that the last part is right since it is the same thing you said, but the part about it NOT being on the system is what bothers me. I think YOU know what you are talking about and she knows quite a bit about computers but is no way an expert. I can not debate her since I am no way an expert myself and would quickly look like I don’t know what I am talking about, since I really do not . But if you have any time you might want to correct her. Either way THANK YOU, I can now surf again…
In Administrative Tools (in Control Panel) there is a “Services” tool. If you have Windows 7, just type Services into the search and it should be one of the options. It used to be called Server Manager. It may just be called “Services” now. Select the Computer Browser entry and double-click or right click and then change it from Automatic to Disabled and then click Stop to stop the service now. If it works, great. If not, you can always set it back to Automatic.
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